Serpentine belt/pulleys replacement, front end removal? (2024)

thesmith

Rollin' with the flow
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #1

Hey all,

Been a while. I recently got myself a 2015 Freightliner NCV3 passenger with the V6 and rear AC - currently has around 70k miles on it. It's been a great van, I've put around 8k on the clock since buying it with no issues.

In the last few thousand miles I've noticed some belt squeal when cold, and it's slowly getting worse. From my research it seems like it's time to do the serpentine belt, idler pulleys, tensioner pulley etc. Seems doable!

However- every useful how-to I've found for the full job usually involves removing most of the front end of the van, including fan/radiator etc. I'm totally willing to do this but I'm having trouble locating a manual or good step by step instructions on how to remove the front end of my van. Also, there seems to be some debate around what tools to use to remove the fan.
Not sure how critical it is, but any specific torque specs for new pulley installation etc would also be super helpful.

Anybody have a good manual/video/instructions/tips? Any special tools you've used to make this less of a headache?

Thanks in advance.

unimog

Active member
  • Jan 3, 2022
  • #2

you just remove the fan blade and shroud

gltrimble

2017 170 4x4
  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #3

thesmith said:

Hey all,

Been a while. I recently got myself a 2015 Freightliner NCV3 passenger with the V6 and rear AC - currently has around 70k miles on it. It's been a great van, I've put around 8k on the clock since buying it with no issues.

In the last few thousand miles I've noticed some belt squeal when cold, and it's slowly getting worse. From my research it seems like it's time to do the serpentine belt, idler pulleys, tensioner pulley etc. Seems doable!

However- every useful how-to I've found for the full job usually involves removing most of the front end of the van, including fan/radiator etc. I'm totally willing to do this but I'm having trouble locating a manual or good step by step instructions on how to remove the front end of my van. Also, there seems to be some debate around what tools to use to remove the fan.
Not sure how critical it is, but any specific torque specs for new pulley installation etc would also be super helpful.

Anybody have a good manual/video/instructions/tips? Any special tools you've used to make this less of a headache?

Thanks in advance.

If you have the rear AC auxiliary compressor then you should be able to change both belts, tensioners, and idle pulleys without removing the fan or the front end. Both belts will fit over the fan once you disconnect the electric and the anti-rotation fan connections. I am assuming your 2015 V6 is similar to my 2016 V6. My original Mercedes serpentine belt squealed on cold starts. I replaced it with a heavy duty Gates belt. No more squeal. It helps to have a tool to release the belt tension. I and a couple other forum members fabricated the lever arm using a T-50 torx bit.

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sprint2freedom

2008 NCV3 170ext
  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #4

It's not necessary to remove the front end.

See my detailed thread:

Serpentine belt emergency, stuck in Joseph OR

As the odometer just crossed 110K, I've known for some time that I needed to address the serpentine belt system as PM but never felt like it was the right time to undertake such a project, so please learn from my mistake... :bash: Earlier in the day I had noticed a faint whining noise that I...

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edit: Just noticed you have rear AC which may involve a 3rd belt, longer belt, different belt path, etc. YMMV.

  • Jan 4, 2022
  • #5

gltrimble said:

If you have the rear AC auxiliary compressor then you should be able to change both belts, tensioners, and idle pulleys without removing the fan or the front end. Both belts will fit over the fan once you disconnect the electric and the anti-rotation fan connections. I am assuming your 2015 V6 is similar to my 2016 V6. My original Mercedes serpentine belt squealed on cold starts. I replaced it with a heavy duty Gates belt. No more squeal. It helps to have a tool to release the belt tension. I and a couple other forum members fabricated the lever arm using a T-50 torx bit.

This is great info, thank you!
Did you leave the fan shroud in place or remove it?
Think a t-50 on a breaker bar would fit in there?
Edit: Also, I see that @sprint2freedom needed to remove his fan pulley to get one of the idler pulley bolts out. Did you have to do this on yours?
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gltrimble

2017 170 4x4
  • Jan 5, 2022
  • #6

thesmith said:

This is great info, thank you!
Did you leave the fan shroud in place or remove it?
Think a t-50 on a breaker bar would fit in there?
Edit: Also, I see that @sprint2freedom needed to remove his fan pulley to get one of the idler pulley bolts out. Did you have to do this on yours?
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I did not have to remove the fan shroud or any fan pulleys. The access to the auxiliary tensioner is tight but the T-50 wrench below will squeeze in. I later made a tool by cutting off the T-50 bit and welding it to a 1” wide piece of flat bar. A few other forum members have done the same. This custom tool makes life easy. I do not believe you can fit any off the shelf socket/breaker bar combo in the tight space. Details on my special T-50 tool can be found on my build thread.

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sprint2freedom

2008 NCV3 170ext
  • Jan 6, 2022
  • #7

You're gonna want to remove the fan shroud. Luckily, this is a simple to do once you've got the viscous fan unscrewed.

1) Remove the single screw holding the coolant reservoir and drop it down as low as you can move it with the hoses connected. That way you won't lose more than a few drops of coolant in step 2.
2) Now remove the clamp on the upper radiator hose, the disconnect the hose.
3) Unclip the shroud then pull it (and the viscous fan) straight up and out.

Once the shroud is out there's quite a bit of room.

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CarmineGTS

Member
  • Jan 9, 2022
  • #8

I just replaced my alternator while traveling, and then 1000 miles later replaced the idler pulley for the rear ac/fan belt after they pulley bearing let go and ripped the belt apart. Both times on the side of the road with minimal tools and not taking the fan or front end off.

thesmith

Rollin' with the flow
  • Jan 13, 2022
  • #9

Well, I think I figured out the source of my squeaky belt noises.
I inspected the serpentine belt etc and it all looks to be okay, but I did see that my fan/rear AC drive belt was walking forward off the fan pulley and appears to be worn where the belt has walked forward.
I've done some digging into the rear/aux AC belt repair, and it looks like there's a new idler pulley bracket from Merc that fixes this known alignment issue (PN #642230064228 from Mercedes, according to this thread).
From what I've read this repair is a bit finnicky compared to a simple serpentine belt/tensioner/pulley job. Anyone have experience with this fix?

Thanks for all your help so far, this forum is full of great knowledge.

unimog

Active member
  • Jan 14, 2022
  • #10

Have changed that idler bracket recently

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CarmineGTS

Member
  • Jan 18, 2022
  • #11

That pulley is the reason my belt shredded as well. My new part came in a bag with the new part number and had the old part number stamped on the bracket. Who knows. It’s fine for now though.

thesmith

Rollin' with the flow
  • Jan 20, 2022
  • #12

Did either of you have to remove your aux ac compressor to get the alternator/bracket out?

unimog

Active member
  • Jan 20, 2022
  • #13

I did not remove the aux ac compressor but took the screws out that was holding it to be able to move it over a bit

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Mikes4x4sprinter

New member
  • Jul 29, 2022
  • #14

gltrimble said:

If you have the rear AC auxiliary compressor then you should be able to change both belts, tensioners, and idle pulleys without removing the fan or the front end. Both belts will fit over the fan once you disconnect the electric and the anti-rotation fan connections. I am assuming your 2015 V6 is similar to my 2016 V6. My original Mercedes serpentine belt squealed on cold starts. I replaced it with a heavy duty Gates belt. No more squeal. It helps to have a tool to release the belt tension. I and a couple other forum members fabricated the lever arm using a T-50 torx bit.

Hey gltrimble, I'm replacing my auxiliary serpentine belt and belt tensioner on my 2015 2500 4x4 which, in my case runs a heavy duty Nations auxiliary alternator for my lithium battery bank. The simple part was releasing the tensioner to relieve the belt, then removing the tensioner to be replaced. I figured out (as you point out above) that the only additional work to remove the belt is to disconnect the anti-rotation connection and the wire connector to the fan drive. for the life of me, I cannot disconnect the electrical connector. I see what appears to be the release tab (see photos) but can't figure out whether to push or pull the tab. (Neither seems to work.) So instead of breaking the connector and cussing out the German engineers that sit in a back room thinking up ways to torture us home mechanics with hard to undo electrical connectors, I figured I'd search the Sprinter forum and came across your post. (I'm also replacing with a green Gates HD fleet grade belt.) Can you enlighten me on how to get the @#$&& connector off? Thanks

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CarmineGTS

Member
  • Jul 30, 2022
  • #15

Pull the grey tab up and then push the whole connector further onto the plug, squeeze the grey piece toward the body of the connector to release the tab and it should pull up off.

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stormyhild

2008 144 3.0L Passenger
  • Nov 6, 2023
  • #16

I’m a new owner of an 08 Dodge sprinter 2500 3.0L passenger with the rear aux a/c. 256k miles

In good shape, but it’s got a squealing belt issue. Not sure of the maintenance history on the belts so I want to just go ahead and replace the belts and idler pulleys and tensioner.

Can anyone help point me in the right direction on where to find what part numbers I need and where to purchase? Will it be easier to remove the front end to get to the pulleys to replace?

thanks

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Vanman2004b

Active member
  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #17

ID Parts has a kit. I have not done mine, 08 also, myself, but it is not required to remove the front end. I watched mine being replaced and they did not remove the front end. I would just remove the cooling fan and shroud, a five minute job. I have removed the fan and shroud a few times. Keep the fan vertical when you remove it. This gives good access to the belts.

The original belts will last 350k miles, but should be replaced every 100k. Don't ask how I know this.

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sprint2freedom

2008 NCV3 170ext
  • Nov 7, 2023
  • #18

Check my thread here for details on changing those parts:

Serpentine belt emergency, stuck in Joseph OR

As the odometer just crossed 110K, I've known for some time that I needed to address the serpentine belt system as PM but never felt like it was the right time to undertake such a project, so please learn from my mistake... :bash: Earlier in the day I had noticed a faint whining noise that I...

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TheGearDoctor

Active member
  • Jan 2, 2024
  • #19

sprint2freedom said:

Check my thread here for details on changing those parts:

Serpentine belt emergency, stuck in Joseph OR

As the odometer just crossed 110K, I've known for some time that I needed to address the serpentine belt system as PM but never felt like it was the right time to undertake such a project, so please learn from my mistake... :bash: Earlier in the day I had noticed a faint whining noise that I...

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sprint2freedom, I'm getting ready for full belt etc replacement, and wanted to clarify a step and related parts that weren't mention. The tech at ID Parts, when asking him 'what else will I need', said one or more intercooler hoses need to be removed (and thus that I should kit O rings for those). Is that correct?

I plan to take the work to my shop I go thru (not a dealer), and not tackle it in our freezing local temps. Ours is 2016 OM642, with no 2nd alternator or rear AC.

TIA

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sprint2freedom

2008 NCV3 170ext
  • Jan 2, 2024
  • #20

They are giving you bad information. There's no need to touch the intercooler hoses, and no need to replace anything even if you did remove them.

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